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 2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon?

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PostSubject: 2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon?   2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon? I_icon_minitimeSun Jun 29, 2008 7:36 pm

I've done some of the math and here are the results:
[I used Ferus since I'm standing in the store atm of writing this. Scale Results up and down for your level]

If you assume that on average, the weaps hit for the midpoint damage, always hit, and no crit:
Ferus Giant Sword (Etc.) - 22.75 DPS
Ferus Giant Axe (Etc.) - 22.95 DPS
Ferus Giant Bludgeon (Etc.) - 23.75 DPS

Assume weaps hit for min. damage, rest same:
Ferus Sword - 20.5
Ferus Axe - 19.54
Ferus Bludg - 19.17

Assume weaps hit max, rest same:
F Sword - 25
F Axe - 26.36
F Bludg - 28.33

While it's obvious that we won't constantly hit in the min, avg, max, or even at all, we will have to weigh all values. When looking at the min vs max, it seems that the safety (min) is outweighed by the chance that you might hit the max: S vs A - .96 min vs 1.36 max, S vs B - 1.33 vs 3.33, A vs B - .37 vs 1.97

It seems that Swords should only be chosen for its EVA bonus. As a semi-tank, I can see the benefit of that.

Now for the benefits:
Swords give evasion
Axes give Crit Chance
Blugeons give accuracy

Evasion can be good considering Warriors don't have a lot of defense but our HP is nice and high with buff
Crits seem to be multiples of your original damage and more damage = happy warrior
Accuracy is nice to output more dependable DPS which I find useful when soloing single higher lvl mobs

I think as a DPS type, the question lies with whether the Crit Chance gain from Axes will outweigh the Acc on Bludgeons. At Ferus (LVL 30), Axes give you 1.93% Crit chance and Bludgeons give 63 Acc. Every 528 seconds (assuming all hits connect), Axes will crit 4.63 more times (on 43-58 damage). Assuming no crit, Bludgeons will dish out 422.4 more damage on average. So non-ideal conditions are somewhere in the middle of these two.

Unfortunately, I need some more data to complete this comparison. If anyone knows how much crits are worth (1), the acc algorithm, and the eva algorithm; I would appreciate it and be sure to give credit!

Ultimately, what do you guys prefer?

Edit:
(1) Thanks to Victoria for providing Crit Damage

So now knowing that Crits are twice the normal damage plus the bonus that is stated in the info/character sheet, let us take the previous 528 second sample and factor in crit damage. Assuming at Level 30 a warrior has roughly 21 bonus crit damage for normal attacks [this number is extrapolated due to my being only 28 atm], Axes will dish out an additional 428 - 685 damage (564.86 on average) [Note that min and max are floored and ceilinged values of 4.63]. This sounds pretty good compared to the 422.4 from bludgeons.

Ugh! Too many words... Table Time!

Auto-Atk DPS w/100% Acc w/o Crit
Ferus Sword Ferus Axe Ferus Bludgeon
Min 20.5 19.54 19.17
Max 25 26.36 28.33
Mid 22.75 22.95 23.75
Auto-Atk Damage over 528 seconds w/100% Acc w/ Crit only from Weapon (Character Crit%=0%)
Ferus Axe Ferus Bludgeon
Min 10320+428=10748+1712=12460 10120+0+1695=11815
Max 13920+685=14605+2329=16934 14960+0+2512=17472
Mid 12120+564.86=12684.86+2049.6=14734.46 12540+0+2079=14619
Additional Character Crit Damage over 528 seconds w/Character Crit%=7% (arbitrary) in red


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PostSubject: Re: 2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon?   2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon? I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30, 2008 1:03 am

jelliesryummy Twisted Evil
Eva. , Cri. , Acc. you can get them by using acceories (not sure the right spelling) and xeons as well ,
but Cri. is the most wanted and the lowest points in all , so i say go for Axe .
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PostSubject: Re: 2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon?   2-handed Sword, Axe, or Bludgeon? I_icon_minitimeMon Jun 30, 2008 7:24 pm

@AnTiM0B: Uh oh Ive been found out. Smile Shh... Don't tell any non-guild peeps so I can keep on bumping Guild threads in anonymity. If you want, you can go troll on my threads for fun!

Updated. Big TY to our Guild Leader for the info. Like to remind everyone that accuracy is still not factored.
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